David McCloskey

I also think, Gordon, another interesting piece of this is the role that military, I guess you'd call them defectors in place, played in this operation.

These are kind of officers who would have been frustrated with Maduro and might have played a role in helping the Americans kind of conduct the operation.

Yeah.

The other piece that I found interesting, I guess, not a surprise given the fact that no Americans died and not a piece of equipment was lost, was that the US gained total control, according to a source involved in the planning, total control over Venezuelan government and military communication systems throughout the mission.

So what happened to the electrical grid in Caracas?

What seems to happen to the sort of the communication system that the military was using?

It seems like the Americans had it completely wired.

The last little bit I found interesting is that Maduro apparently has been videotaped constantly since his capture.

And the idea there was to avoid any allegations that he is being tortured or sort of mishandled.

And the thinking around even things like, you know, why is he not in kind of an orange jumpsuit?

You know, he's just in that kind of gray tracksuit.

Why is he being flown out of Guantanamo in a 757 as opposed to the Gulfstream planes that would be used when American forces render cartel members?

He's being given the head of state treatment, Gordon, for a future felon.

So those, I mean, just, you know, again, I think, you know, more will obviously come out in the next few days and weeks.

But just a few kind of updates to the story we told on the pod on Monday on the raid.

But I think the focus of this episode, Gordon, is not how the raid went down.

It's this massive question of why the US did it, why Trump did it in the first place.

That's the subtitle to your next book, right, Gordon?

The Gordon Carrera story.

It could be the autobiography, maybe.