David McCloskey

which is that the Iranians are continuing to enrich uranium.

And this is one of the major issues that confronts the second Trump administration as it's taking office.

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It's not.

And, you know, in preparing for these episodes, I was struck, Gordon, at how even having done

a significant amount of very deep reading on the topic, how it can get very confusing and technical very, very quickly.

Yeah.

And so I think it's important to kind of break out, well, what constitutes a nuclear weapons program?

And there are basically three legs to this piece of furniture.

One of them is the production of the fissile material.

That is what most of the Iranian conversation, the public conversation is about.