David McCloskey

They had to find another spot for him that didn't require the same level of security clearance. And so he ends up kind of back in another role and then eventually in Hawaii. Yeah.

That's good. I'm going to steal that for a novel.

That's good. I'm going to steal that for a novel.

That's good. I'm going to steal that for a novel.

Well, and he's also remembered in this period for not being able to show up to work on time, which I'll just mention in my fact.

Well, and he's also remembered in this period for not being able to show up to work on time, which I'll just mention in my fact.

Well, and he's also remembered in this period for not being able to show up to work on time, which I'll just mention in my fact.

Right. And apparently because he's playing video games so late at night, you know, and again, it's this kind of thread of this guy is smart, actually likable in many respects. He's introverted, but, you know, he's got a long term girlfriend. He's got relationships with people, but he's not really able to kind of function properly. in a normal work environment.

Right. And apparently because he's playing video games so late at night, you know, and again, it's this kind of thread of this guy is smart, actually likable in many respects. He's introverted, but, you know, he's got a long term girlfriend. He's got relationships with people, but he's not really able to kind of function properly. in a normal work environment.

Right. And apparently because he's playing video games so late at night, you know, and again, it's this kind of thread of this guy is smart, actually likable in many respects. He's introverted, but, you know, he's got a long term girlfriend. He's got relationships with people, but he's not really able to kind of function properly. in a normal work environment.

There is another feature here, which is colleagues from... the sort of pineapple bunker, remember that Snowden was sort of very... He would come out and say that, okay, well, things like the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Protect Intellectual Property Act, these are going to lead to online censorship, which is a theme of his. He's very concerned about that. Free internet is what he wants.

There is another feature here, which is colleagues from... the sort of pineapple bunker, remember that Snowden was sort of very... He would come out and say that, okay, well, things like the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Protect Intellectual Property Act, these are going to lead to online censorship, which is a theme of his. He's very concerned about that. Free internet is what he wants.

There is another feature here, which is colleagues from... the sort of pineapple bunker, remember that Snowden was sort of very... He would come out and say that, okay, well, things like the Stop Online Piracy Act and the Protect Intellectual Property Act, these are going to lead to online censorship, which is a theme of his. He's very concerned about that. Free internet is what he wants.

But then he'll admit to having read neither bill and not understanding really what's in them. So I do think you also see... these glimmers in this period, even earlier, of somebody who is extremely certain about his beliefs, does have... Ideological beliefs. Ideological beliefs.

But then he'll admit to having read neither bill and not understanding really what's in them. So I do think you also see... these glimmers in this period, even earlier, of somebody who is extremely certain about his beliefs, does have... Ideological beliefs. Ideological beliefs.

But then he'll admit to having read neither bill and not understanding really what's in them. So I do think you also see... these glimmers in this period, even earlier, of somebody who is extremely certain about his beliefs, does have... Ideological beliefs. Ideological beliefs.

He's not just a mercenary, but he jumps to conclusions very quickly, gets to very certain conclusions very quickly about those beliefs. Yeah, I think that's right.

He's not just a mercenary, but he jumps to conclusions very quickly, gets to very certain conclusions very quickly about those beliefs. Yeah, I think that's right.

He's not just a mercenary, but he jumps to conclusions very quickly, gets to very certain conclusions very quickly about those beliefs. Yeah, I think that's right.

Well, no, I don't buy it. There's a very kind of critical period in the middle of 2012 that's kind of essential to this. But up until that point, I mean, it is probably worth us talking a little bit about that kind of access he had. Because he does end up in a unique position to take a massive trove of documents.