David Nolan

And again, this is what I'm looking for.

And I'm going to echo this because tomorrow we're having our meetup in San Diego and there's gonna be a bunch of young people.

In fact, many of them are my volunteers.

I love it.

So what, what advice can I give them as echoed by Andy Ellis?

Yeah, but there's no one's going to help you with that.

The advantage of doing it at an organization where there are senior people currently doing it is you'll learn from them.

Yes.

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My wife is tech support for my mom and I'm tech support for her mom.

It makes everyone a lot happier.

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