Chapter 1: What are the best practices for CISOs in today's business environment?
Best advice for a CISO. Go.
You definitely have to obsess over the business you serve. My advice is get out there, get your hands dirty, get on the front lines where revenue is actually made and get to know what that success looks like. Talk to your executives and your business peers and help them achieve what their goals are, but do it in a secure way.
The cool thing is not only does that help you to translate your risk in their business terms, but it helps you identify potential impacts and those opportunities that your strategy on security may cause.
It's time to begin the CISO Series podcast.
Welcome to the CISO Series podcast. My name is David Spark. I am the producer of said CISO Series. And joining me is my co-host, one of your favorites, it's Andy Ellis, the principal over at DUHA. Andy, say hello to the nice audience.
That one was in Hebrew. That one I picked up. Excellent.
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Chapter 2: How can CISOs effectively influence business decisions?
David actually recognized the language for once. Well, I don't speak it, my wife speaks it and I did recognize a handful of the words there. So there you go. We are available at CISOseries.com where you can find all of our other wonderful programming and our sponsor for today's episode, a spectacular sponsor,
For years now, and continue to be a great sponsor of the CISO series, that would be ThreatLocker. Allow what you need. Block everything else by default, including ransomware and rogue code. We're going to be talking about that and a lot more a little bit later in the show. Thank you, ThreatLocker. But first, Andy, I'm bringing our guests in right now.
Okay, so I'm going to announce it, but there's a reason I'm bringing them in. And this is to drive you crazy, just so you know. It's to drive you crazy.
Like I'm already there. It's not a short drive.
Chapter 3: What are the challenges of maintaining cybersecurity frameworks?
He is, by the way, the former CISO over at Assyrian, none other than David Nolan. David, welcome to the show. Thank you. Glad to be here. All right. Here's something David and I discovered just very recently. That you're both named David? Yes. That is one thing we do have in common. Yes. But that's not the thing I was going to bring up that would drive you nuts.
And you have five letter last names.
Yes. That was the other thing that was going to come up, but we are both massive pinball nerds. Oh no, no.
Chapter 4: How do CISOs deal with the initiative gap in security?
I knew it. I knew it. Let me give you an idea. First of all, One of the machines, we own the same machine. We both own a few machines, but we own the same machine. And he took a photo of his score because he broke a billion points on Godzilla, which is a big deal. Please tell me it was higher than your score. It was higher than my score.
Yeah.
Lifetime achievement. Because you're going to obsess over beating that now. My high on that is about $870 million. He broke a billion, which is a big deal on that machine. And he knew I would appreciate it.
Chapter 5: What role does confidence play in code ownership and security?
And I did. And I actually showed it to my wife and kids, who also know it's a big deal to break a billion on that machine.
Congratulations, David. Well done. Life goals achieved right there, you know, right behind my kid's birth.
This is one of the things is I think I get more enjoyment out of a pinball achievement than any professional achievement.
That's okay. Just to be clear, like everybody has their thing. Like you make fun of people who like football. I'll make fun. I only make fun of pinball because it trolls you right back. I'm glad you have a thing that brings you that much joy.
Well, like for example, I finally placed in a tournament. I got third in a tournament, which was huge for me.
Wait, I just need to check just to be sure.
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Chapter 6: How should security leaders manage AI-generated code?
How many people were in the tournament? 24, I came in third. Okay, that's still pretty good. My mother-in-law does this because she'll come in and she'll be like, oh, I took first place in my age group. Well, how many people were in your age group? One.
Oh, well, typically I ran a foot race and I came in third in my age group and there were five in my age group.
Yeah. I mean, that said, my mother-in-law is in her 70s and places in like cross-country skiing races. So I don't care how few people there were in her age group. She showed up and she finished.
Oh, she showed up and finished. Forget it. That's a win right there. That's a win.
Chapter 7: What are the implications of relying on AI for cybersecurity?
So here's the thing. On that pinball competition, I made a whopping $14. But-
What did it cost you to enter?
There you go. Because I paid for myself, my wife, my two kids, all of us were totally into it. And the cost to actually play each game. So we dropped about $50, but I won 14.
So $50 and four of you entered out of the 24 who were in and you placed third. The story gets better and better. Who else was in this tournament?
Well, other very good pinball players were in it. It'll turn out I was playing in the pinball tournament. My oldest son, the machines I own, I have four machines. He has a high score in three out of four of them.
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Chapter 8: What are the common pitfalls in cybersecurity hiring practices?
I only, it's the darn Godzilla is the only one I'm holding on to right now. Ah, and the student surpasses the master.
Yeah, yeah. Well, he's really good. My oldest son's very good. This is what we should all aim for, that when we're developing our teams, whether we have to grow them ourselves or get to hire them, that they should surpass us.
I am very happy that he's a great pinball player. It aggravates me, though, that I'm not better than him. Sometimes, here's the thing. First of all, I had the high score on all four machines at one time, no longer.
That's what the reset button is for. I feel like pinball is like darts and shuffleboard. You can't really apply it anywhere else if you're good, so I always hesitate to get good at it. But you don't ever play in tournaments, do you, David?
No.
I generally haven't. I mean, just maybe at the local place.
Yeah, well, I mean, that's the thing. This was a kind of a local tournament. We have them all the time. No, I've done the really big ones, too. Those are pretty rough.
Yeah, we've got a national champion and many state champions in our in our local place. So it's it's tough. It's challenging. Yeah. Yeah.
All right. Enough of the pinball talk. Let's get to the show.
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