David Pagnotta

He can.

He can, Jeff.

But, you know, some people, Zach included, I presume, just enjoy punishing themselves, right?

On a regular basis.

Both.

You know, as a kid growing up in Montreal, seeing him play for the Habs in the early years was always something that stuck out to me.

And then as his career kind of moved along, just the fierce competitor that he was on the ice always stood out to me from that perspective.

And then many years later,

having the opportunity to speak with him throughout each season, talking to him about his clients and then a bunch of stuff around the league and just, just stuff like that.

He was always cordial all the time.

Didn't have to, a lot of guys don't have to, but was willing to, you know, have those conversations to as much as good.

But, you know, always open, always willing to take a quick text or text back.

And, you know, if he was busy, he would apologize later.

And it was just always just a nice back and forth that I had, you know, with him.

And this surprised the heck out of him.

I mean, just like a lot of people, right?

Surprised everybody.

And I was in the building for game three on Monday when he was out there holding the torch.

And, you know, two days later, that's it.

You know, so it's...