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The Sheet with Jeff Marek

Hurricanes vs Canadiens Game 5 Preview & NHL Rumours ft. David Pagnotta

29 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What are the stakes for the Hurricanes and Canadiens in Game 5?

9.548 - 29.651 Jeff Marek

Okay, welcome once again to the sheet here for this, where are we? Friday, May the 29th, closing in on June. I've always maintained if I could do one thing in the NHL, it would be get the game out of June. But here we are. Stanley Cup Finals are on the horizon. And we are here to watch the Carolina Hurricanes and the Montreal Canadiens. And do a lot of other things as well.

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30.652 - 40.344 Jeff Marek

Coming up on today's program, Dave Pannier is going to be stopping by here in a couple of seconds. One of the things that I do want to mention is, and I mentioned... I mentioned this on Sakaris and Price. Well, you know what?

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41.025 - 55.504 Jeff Marek

Let's do the blueprint and then I'll get more into this and we'll bring Dave aboard because I had so much fun with Matt and Blake this morning that having a conversation with Zach and Zach's like, why don't you just put this on our show? I'm like, oh yeah, you know what? Why not? So we'll do it.

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Chapter 2: What strategies must the Canadiens implement to extend their season?

55.664 - 78.274 Jeff Marek

The blueprint is powered by, I swear to be vague. The blueprint is powered by FanDuel. Download the app today and play your game on FanDuel. Coming up in a couple of moments, Dave Pagnotta. Daily Faceoff Insider from the fourth period from the DFO Rundown Insider Edition podcast alongside the very excellent Irfan Ghaffar, which you should be watching slash listening to each and every week.

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78.294 - 104.237 Jeff Marek

Game five tonight in Carolina at the Lenovo. We'll see if there is a game six and if there is. There's one really big question about that game. Jay McKee, who was part of our Beyond the Crust series, now former head coach of the Brantford Bulldogs, is now the head coach of the Hamilton Hammers. We'll talk about McKee coming up here in a couple of moments.

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104.217 - 126.413 Jeff Marek

We'll talk about Kelly McCrimmon firing back on Bruce Cassidy on spitting chiclets. Jay Woodcroft and his situation. I would imagine he would be a desirable candidate out there. And as I mentioned, trade proposals. I'm going to hold this one and maybe I'll, you know what, I'm going to launch this when we finish up our conversation with Dave.

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Chapter 3: How has Frederik Andersen performed in this series?

126.433 - 131.541 Jeff Marek

How about this one? But when we're finishing up with Dave, I'll drop this one on him.

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131.96 - 158.75 Jeff Marek

Just to get his reaction, because this is kind of the world that Dave exists in, which is in the world of who needs what, and in the sense that right now, managers around the NHL more want to satisfy each other for their needs than try to, I don't know, steal fingers out of every handshake, as it used to be, as Brian would tell us. We would judge trades by, did the other guy get fired?

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158.81 - 173.905 Jeff Marek

If the other guy got fired, then that was a really good trade. Now it's all let's work together, let's help one another. Well, by the way, except for Vegas. Kumbaya. Yeah, Kumbaya. Kelly McCormick's not singing Kumbaya. So there are 31 teams that all want to get along, and then there's Vegas. And we'll get to Vegas here in a couple of moments too.

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173.925 - 182.313 Jeff Marek

But I think that Dave would have a perspective on it too that might be interesting. And it involves something. Here's your clue.

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Chapter 4: What are the latest coaching rumors in the NHL?

183.094 - 212.021 Jeff Marek

It involves something that we haven't seen in the NHL in a really long time. But it's something that used to very much be part of the NHL and is still legal under the CBA to do. But nobody does it. And then it involves a very creative way for the Vancouver Canucks to get two picks in the top four. Where everybody comes out happy.

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212.461 - 223.358 Jeff Marek

Now, the whole thing would be predicated on your team taking Gavin McKenna. And if your team doesn't take Gavin McKenna, it's chaos everywhere.

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224.806 - 240.163 Zach

Well, they went to visit him at his hometown, so I think we're stepping in the right direction. Also, financially motivated, Jeff. We already saw people wearing McKenna jerseys in the streets. Not here to sell jerseys.

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240.764 - 244.047 Jeff Marek

I remember who said that. I can't remember.

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244.067 - 256.551 Zach

Not here to sell jerseys, but we're here to sell admissions to wave the flag and ride the Zamboni and... I don't even know what else they're charging for but there's probably a lot of other things that I'm missing right now.

Chapter 5: What insights did Kelly McCrimmon share about the Golden Knights?

257.56 - 258.601 Zach

But not here to sell jerseys.

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258.821 - 271.095 Jeff Marek

What was that idea we talked about about a month ago about like you bring, in order to gain admission into watching a Maple Leaf game, you have to bring like family heirlooms? You have to surrender something, some type of personal item to MLSC?

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271.655 - 279.403 Zach

Yes. Yes, you have to bring something to get into the building. Yeah, an offering.

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279.423 - 281.806 Jeff Marek

So bad you own it, yeah. An offering.

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282.106 - 282.867 Zach

It's a sacrifice.

283.187 - 296.501 Jeff Marek

Yeah, exactly. We'll stop you at the front and you'll have to open a vein. And then we'll give you entrance through our rink to watch our team. What a team I cheer for. Hang on. Hang on.

Chapter 6: What are the implications of Jay Woodcroft's coaching situation?

297.022 - 320.332 Jeff Marek

I'm glad you mentioned that because here's a little secret you don't know. You don't have to. You don't have to. Yeah. Think about that when you listen to me and Dave talk. Dave Pagnotta from the fourth period, DFO Insider, alongside Irfan Ghaffar Wednesdays on DFO Rundown Insider Edition. Dave, how are you today? Does Zach, at this point in his life, does he need to be a Toronto Maple Leafs fan?

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320.652 - 332.464 Jeff Marek

Like, you are allowed to cheer for other teams, correct? Like, there are 31 other, I believe. It's allowed, right? He's allowed to cheer for another. He doesn't need to do this to himself. He can come back. He could go back.

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Chapter 7: What is the wild offseason trade proposal involving the Canucks?

332.524 - 345.446 Jeff Marek

There's no reason to believe that, you know, there has to be like a Hansel and Gretel trail of breadcrumbs through his fandom all the way back to when he was cheering for Matt Sundin, now cheering to presumably Gavin McKenna. He's allowed to detour here, right?

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346.949 - 357.475 David Pagnotta

He can. He can, Jeff. But, you know, some people, Zach included, I presume, just enjoy punishing themselves, right? On a regular basis.

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358.997 - 372.034 Jeff Marek

People like pain sometimes. There's a great old saying, why are you hitting your head against the wall? Well, because it feels good when I stop is the answer. So I guess maybe that's why our man Zach is deciding this.

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Chapter 8: How might the Canucks approach the upcoming draft?

372.114 - 399.212 Jeff Marek

But we shall see. Hang in there, buddy. By the way, at the end of this conversation, and I'll sort of tease it now, I'm going to run something by you that I ran by the Securus and Price guys for their podcast. later on today um okay a two-part trade proposal which sort of winks at how the sardines got to vancouver in the first place and could this work now and satisfy wait for it four teams

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399.58 - 420.28 Jeff Marek

I had some interesting conversations this morning. I figured we'd pull them all together and we'll see what Dave thinks about all of this. Yes. Start on a sad note. The passing of Claude Lemieux yesterday. You, in your capacity as a hockey insider, deal with a lot of agents. Claude Lemieux, I would imagine, would have been one of them. I had numerous dealings with Claude.

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420.44 - 443.687 Jeff Marek

Every conversation was delightful. As much as he was fierce on the ice, he was gentlemanly and kind off of the ice. the tributes that have come pouring in and as everyone has shared their, their personal stories about their, their experiences with Claude Lemieux, whether it's, you know, at a rink or just out in the streets at a draft at a restaurant or whatever. Also to speak to the same thing.

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443.727 - 457.144 Jeff Marek

This was a wonderful guy who passed away from, from suicide at the age of 60. Do you have a initial thought on Claude Lemieux and how will you remember him as an agent or as a player?

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458.575 - 481.225 David Pagnotta

Both. You know, as a kid growing up in Montreal, seeing him play for the Habs in the early years was always something that stuck out to me. And then as his career kind of moved along, just the fierce competitor that he was on the ice always stood out to me from that perspective. And then many years later,

481.34 - 503.145 David Pagnotta

having the opportunity to speak with him throughout each season, talking to him about his clients and then a bunch of stuff around the league and just, just stuff like that. He was always cordial all the time. Didn't have to, a lot of guys don't have to, but was willing to, you know, have those conversations to as much as good.

503.227 - 520.373 David Pagnotta

But, you know, always open, always willing to take a quick text or text back. And, you know, if he was busy, he would apologize later. And it was just always just a nice back and forth that I had, you know, with him. And this surprised the heck out of him. I mean, just like a lot of people, right? Surprised everybody.

521.014 - 543.472 David Pagnotta

And I was in the building for game three on Monday when he was out there holding the torch. And, you know, two days later, that's it. You know, so it's... funny how you know life works sometimes um you never know what somebody is really going through um and You know, if you're going through something, you can reach out.

543.512 - 566.713 David Pagnotta

If, you know, you haven't talked to your buddies in a while, a quick little hello up isn't too hard to do. So, yeah, definitely a reminder in that sense. But just in terms of honoring and having a tribute to him, again, just my interactions with him were always great. And this is going to impact a number of people, including those tonight, obviously the Montreal Canadiens organization.

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