David Pakman

We would, which would not be the overwhelming blue wave that is possible.

I think that's true.

And I wouldn't understate the importance of those four points because the lower you go, the less there is left in the sense of there's some core, I don't know if it's 22 or 28% or I don't know exactly what it is, but it's the shoot people on fifth Avenue and they don't care kind of crowd.

So when you're at 42 losing four, I think is actually quite

significantly.

We're getting to the end of the, um, convincible electorate, if that makes sense.

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