David Pearce

Yeah.

All right.

Let's hear this clip.

In this cohort.

On the other side, if you're not diabetic, not worried about becoming diabetic, this is still being pitched to you.

And I mean you broadly, but also you, V-Song, a person who has since spent a lot of time wearing one of these things.

When you say optimizing your metabolism or why people should be tracking their glucose, what is the pitch here?

I was going to ask you yours and now I'm not going to.

So there's a push to make this as mainstream as, I don't know, knowing your VO2 max or even like your heart rate or something.

These things that I think are pretty normal, sort of one tick above regular person biometrics.

People want glucose monitoring to be as mainstream and as part of our lives as that kind of stuff, it seems like.

So yeah, I want to hear a bunch about your own journey.

But I also want to kind of go back to your motivations for this journey.

Is this something that you're you're interested anyway?

Like were you do you have experience with CGMs?

Is this a world you knew going in?

Or did you sort of sense the mainstreaming of it and decide to try to figure it out for yourself?

And you're like showing them the app on your phone being like, no, what?

Well, actually, on that point, help me understand sort of the day to day life of that, because I think you and I have talked on the show before about how you feel about things like as simple as the streaks for closing your rings on the Apple Watch and the ways in which.

data collection turns sort of pernicious and addictive in a way that is really problematic.