David Perlmutter

Matter of fact, it went on sale two days ago.

And it talks about these three phases and what it takes to break through and let those things go.

But I would agree at this stage in your life, it's really about looking at those earlier events and realizing how they've imprinted on you, how they're influencing you every moment of your day-to-day life in terms of your interactions, in terms of your sense of self,

And ultimately, you know, recognizing that you're going to push through that.

And, you know, Sean's going to be, you know, really in a place of, again, an epiphany.

I don't think that in the third phase, that phase two fully goes away.

I mean, that's, you know, full enlightenment.

And who really gets to that stage?

That's the goal, but that's tough.

yeah i didn't realize i think i just normalized it um but i took sarah gottfried's trauma test i got a seven out of nine which is like pretty high um so definitely need to need some work well let me go on uh on your podcast and saying i love her and we uh she just uh she gets exactly what we're talking about right now and

beyond doing her own self-work, has done this outreach that helps so many people.

You took her test.

You know what she's all about and what it can do to help.

So, you know, she's a very special person.

Yeah, shout out to her.

No, I want to thank you for this time.

I've really enjoyed it.

I've enjoyed connecting with you.

Likewise.