David Pierce

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

We're going to take another short break. And when we get back, we're going to start tying all of this stuff back together. Back in a minute.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

Welcome back. I'm still here, still talking with Nick Kwa, the podcast critic at Vulture. Right before the break, we were talking about what even is a podcast at this point? Is it audio? Is it video? No one knows. Do we even need the word podcast anymore? Who's to say? But what we do know is there's still a sense of novelty to it in the worlds of business and politics.

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

And the newness means something. Let's put that back together with this idea of we came out of the podcast election. And whether you're a business or a politician, where you go seems to be different now when you want to talk to, quote unquote, the people. With now a few weeks of distance from the election and the chaos surrounding it, what do you think we're going to take away from this?

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

what happened kind of in that last few weeks before the election and where the candidates in particular chose to go.

Do you think it's as simple in that case as just this is where the audience is now or is there still something about... the form of the podcast itself that feels different. Like, I'm still hung up on this idea that spending three hours with Joe Rogan is different in some meaningful way that I have trouble putting my finger on than even doing a, you know, six-minute TV hit on CNBC.

Do you think it's as simple in that case as just this is where the audience is now or is there still something about... the form of the podcast itself that feels different. Like, I'm still hung up on this idea that spending three hours with Joe Rogan is different in some meaningful way that I have trouble putting my finger on than even doing a, you know, six-minute TV hit on CNBC.

Do you think it's as simple in that case as just this is where the audience is now or is there still something about... the form of the podcast itself that feels different. Like, I'm still hung up on this idea that spending three hours with Joe Rogan is different in some meaningful way that I have trouble putting my finger on than even doing a, you know, six-minute TV hit on CNBC.

Even absent the audience stuff, there is something about... Particularly these like long Joe Rogan or Call Her Daddy, these like very personal podcasts that seems to do something that no other media does.

Even absent the audience stuff, there is something about... Particularly these like long Joe Rogan or Call Her Daddy, these like very personal podcasts that seems to do something that no other media does.

Even absent the audience stuff, there is something about... Particularly these like long Joe Rogan or Call Her Daddy, these like very personal podcasts that seems to do something that no other media does.

I think if you can do it, we're learning it's very powerful. And I think what we're seeing with a lot of these things, all the way up and down the line, from huge celebrities who are trying to have podcasts, all the way down to, again, these B2B folks, the upside is...

I think if you can do it, we're learning it's very powerful. And I think what we're seeing with a lot of these things, all the way up and down the line, from huge celebrities who are trying to have podcasts, all the way down to, again, these B2B folks, the upside is...