David Pierce

But, you know, if you look, I mean, God, all of Elon's apps are really the superstars here in terms of problematic.

But like, if you look at the content on X or on Grok, it's like, does some of this violate the app store's rules?

Obviously.

Yeah.

Is Apple going to get more heat for removing it or for leaving it there?

Yeah, I think we this is again, it's this is sort of the it's a question that comes up a lot in the what will John Ternus do as CEO kind of universe right now, because the Tim Cook has been a person who has tried to walk a lot of lines and make a lot of people happy and has not taken a lot of what I would call very strong stances about much of anything.

It'll be very interesting to see if the new CEO is willing to take bigger swings in the name of some of the values that Apple talks about.

Let's talk about one more news thing.

And then I just want to talk about features we're excited about for 10 minutes and we're going to get out of here.

This has been coming up a lot in the comments on the live stream too, which is Apple is...

kind of deliberately or otherwise treating the the 27 operating systems as like a real hardware dividing line uh it is dropping support for a huge number of um of apple watches it's dropping support for a lot of older macs when it comes to especially like the the series stuff that is just

sort of a much larger set of devices being left behind for this rev of the software than I think we're used to.

Oh, yeah, right.

iPads, too.

A lot of old iPads are being dropped, too.

And Apple is a company that I think has a really strong track record of supporting its old devices and is just kind of clean breaking here.

On some level, I think this is just technology, right?

Like, you need RAM in particular to do the kind of stuff Apple's trying to do on devices here, but...

Jake, were you surprised here at the sort of sheer number of devices being left behind?

Oh, yeah.