David Pocock

Yeah, 2017, I think it was.

We just had a little ceremony with some friends and signed the paperwork.

I was, yes, 2014.

I wrestled alongside fifth-generation farmer Rick Laird in the middle of Laird State Forest, which was actually named after one of his forebears, protesting a new coal mine, which just didn't make sense.

And it's actually having huge impacts on the farmers around there now.

I love banoffee pie.

If my wife makes it, I just can't stop eating it until it's finished.

There we go.

It's a once a year type scenario.

Well, I sometimes get asked, you know, after I think I've been a politician for four years now, almost four years, like, what do you think about politics in Australia?

And I share the frustration of so many Australians.

And you sit in there and some days you just think, what on earth are we doing in this place?

But I'm probably more hopeful about politics than when I went in there because I

One, we have the foundations of a great democracy.

We've got an electoral system, which I think is the envy of the world with the AEC, how independent they are, and just, I guess, compulsory voting and how Australians just turn up and vote and get it done.

But we obviously have some challenges, I think, in terms of the incentives of short-term decision-making, decisions being made for three years for the next election, rather than saying, OK, how do we make decisions that are good for the next 10, 20, 30 years?

And also...

I guess the lack of courage at times to actually deal with the root causes of problems.

And I'm sure we'll get into some of this, but there's so many of these sort of small patch job solutions that politicians or parties think they can get away with and really sell it as a big win, but not deal with it.

But I think more and more Australians are frustrated with that.