David Pocock

Again, like I was, you know, from, I don't know, probably 10 to my early 20s, I was just totally obsessed.

And looking back, it wasn't very healthy.

Definitely a sort of coping mechanism for dealing with, I guess, you know, leaving Zimbabwe the way my family did and moving to this new place.

It was just how I coped.

It was something that I could control.

And so I became very obsessive.

around eating, around training.

And I've apologised to my family so many times.

I've got two younger brothers and obviously mum and dad.

But, yeah, it was kind of what I did at the time.

Well, yeah, I guess, yeah, it was helpful in terms of getting strong and fitting all the other things.

But looking back, clearly pretty extreme.

That's true.

2010, my wife and I, we had a ceremony, but we didn't sign any forms.

And we kind of figured, you know, we had friends who were gay and we kind of thought, like, if they want to get married, why can't they?

We looked at their relationship and didn't see much difference in their love.

And so I figured like this probably won't cost us anything.

And I think it's the right thing to do to wait until they can.

And so in 20, when was it, 2018, 2017?

Around then.