David Pocock

Or we could just say this is a public health issue and we're going to fund that in other ways through the transition.

It matters because this is, in the words of Peter Murphy, a predatory industry.

They will take any loophole they can.

And the current regulator, ACMA...

clearly, I think, doesn't have the teeth to deal with it.

And there's just so much that actually falls out of the scope of current regulation.

And the government's own response talks about all these emerging forms of gambling online and how they need to be regulated.

That's why you have a national regulator, a one-stop shop that is responsible for actually regulating this industry and putting Australians' health and well-being front and

and centre.

I don't understand why you wouldn't want something like that.

Why should we settle for something partial?

Three ads an hour for kids, is that acceptable?

This is something that so many parents stop me in the street about and say, you can't get away from these ads.

I hear them on Spotify between kids' songs.

Why on earth are we saying that it's okay just to have a half-baked response and, well, it's better than nothing?

That doesn't cut it, particularly when you have a crossbench.

The government would have the numbers to actually implement the Murphy Report in full, and there's bills in the House and the Senate.

that would do that.

Everyone knows the human cost that this is having.

Daniel, over the last, I don't know, 18 months, the number of young men that have stopped me in the street, pulled me aside at events and said, mate, can I just chat to you privately?