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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

epicycles, ideas like natural selection, to kind of make it work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It's not impossible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It may be the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But one wonders whether profoundly different models might actually explain the data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so that's something that we and others have been thinking about.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Can there be other models?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

An example of another model that might be able to explain the data that we've been playing with is one where there's much more DNA in Neanderthals from modern humans than the three or 5% that's been estimated.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And we can get such models to fit, but here it's 30% or 50% or 70%.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So in that view, Neanderthals and Denisovans are not sisters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

In fact, modern humans and Neanderthals are just as qualified to be sisters as Neanderthals and Denisovans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And in that case, maybe it's not clear what's modern and what's archaic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Are modern humans archaic?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Are modern humans modern?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Are Neanderthals archaic?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Neanderthals are modern.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

What's also become clear in the last few years in a separate thread of research, not based on ancient DNA, but based on using more and more powerful and sophisticated ways of pattern finding in modern data, is that modern humans are also highly substructured.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

We can see that even without having ancient DNA yet.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Of course, once one has ancient DNA, it's so much clearer.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But it's very clear that you can't explain, for example, modern African DNA without invoking very extreme substructure as deep as the mixtures that contributed and mixed between Neanderthals and modern humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so that mixture, which of those groups were archaic?