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David Reich

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So today in South Asia, almost everybody is on a gradient of ancestry with two poles, what we call the ancestral North Indians and the ancestral South Indians, with very few exceptions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

The exceptions are people with your last name, Patel.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Oh, yeah?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And as a minor exception, but it's interesting that that's your last name.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But also people from Munda speak Austroasiatic languages or are unmixed with them or people who are Tibeto-Burman speakers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But most people are on a mixture between two poles, ancestral North Indians and ancestral South Indians.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And when you look at genetic data from India, it looks like what you see today in African-Americans with people with relatively higher or lower proportions of, say, European and West African ancestry.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so it looks like a population in the process of mixture like African-Americans who are the result of mixture in the last 10 or so generations between two, mostly two very different populations mixing in different proportions.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But what happened in India is it froze.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So the mixing started and then it froze.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And the freezing happened 2,000 to 3,000 years ago, and it froze because of cultural change.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So what happens in India is you have a three-part change.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

You have an arrival of three source populations, essentially parallel to what you see in Europe.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

There's a local hunter-gatherer population.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

There's what's probably a farming population, maybe also a hunter-gatherer population initially.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And then there are these people descended at some level from steppe pastoralists.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

These are the three primary ancestral populations.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They come together at the end of the decline of the Harappan civilization, which ends about 3,800 years ago.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Groups from this Harappan group, which we actually have sampled, and they're all on a different gradient, they mix with the steppe groups and with the local hunter-gatherer groups to form and coalesce to these two later groups, which we call the ancestral North Indians and ancestral South Indians.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And then mixtures of these two mixed populations form in the gangetic plane, form people all along this gradient, and it's really a very simple mixture of two sources.