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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

That's two populations 70,000 years separated.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

There's no biological incompatibilities between West Africans and Europeans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

There's no natural selection against biological incompatibilities.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So we know when Neanderthals and modern humans met and mixed,

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

There were biological incompatibilities.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

That was at 700,000 years ago.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And so as populations become more apart, there begins to be biological incompatibilities rapidly developing, probably as the square of the distance separation, because you need pairs of interacting genes, and therefore it's the square of the separation.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So here, it would have been maybe only 400,000 years separated between this lineage and this lineage.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Interesting.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Here, it's like 1.2 million years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

It's a lot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So these are at the edge of not being able to produce children.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So this is quite different humans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

These are actually three times closer than these.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And like, if you look at mixtures of humans today, there are mixtures in Southern Africa today are people who are half this distance.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

If you look at Khoisan and Bantu people mixing in Southern Africa, like the Xhosa, which is the population of, for example, Nelson Mandela, this is groups that are separated by almost 200,000 years, which is half of this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Totally compatible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And so...

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Like what you're seeing is this is a group that's actually completely permeable genetically or nearly completely permeable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich – Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

This one almost certainly has substantial biological incompatibilities because 300,000 years later, two or 300,000 years later, we see the interbreeding between Neanderthals and modern humans or between Denisovans and modern humans, there's clear evidence of incompatibility at that point.