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David Reich

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And then the cultural change happens, which locks in the caste system, and people freeze, and they stop mixing very much.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so what you see is instead of people collapsing to a point, which is what you see in Europe after this type of mixing process of these three sources happen in any one region, you see this gradient forming and it's stable.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And because of the...

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

enduringness of the caste system, you actually have a snapshot going back a couple of thousand years and without this continuing change.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so it's kind of an amazing system genetically to look at because of people's reluctance to mix with people from very different groups in traditional communities.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so the three steps are

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

coming together of very different populations, and then convulsive profound mixing of groups that had previously not mixed, and then locking into this static system as the caste system sets in, which is documented in the early texts like the Rig Veda.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And you can actually see the change in that discussion during the course of the Rig Veda.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So the first good genomic data from South Asians is embarrassingly from Houston, Texas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So in the human haplotype map project, there was a sample from Houston, Texas of Gujaratis in Houston, Texas.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

G-I-H.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And if you look at them, people are actually not on this gradient, but they're in a few different places.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

They're clustered into groups, and there's the main gradient and there's an off-gradient group.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And I forgot how we figured this out, but someone figured out that these people are all Patels.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And Patels have their own distinctive history with different relationships to people in Central Asia.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And it's probably some additional ancestry from Central Asia pushing them off the main gradient.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It's very unstable life.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So I think that in some areas, like in archaeology, a lot of my colleagues who I respect tremendously, the career trajectory is you learn to become an archaeologist, you dig, and you have a set of digs that you're doing for dozens and dozens of years with similar or slowly evolving techniques.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And my work has just changed so radically.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

When I started doing this work, one could not sequence a whole genome.