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David Reich

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And it's tempting to think that both the Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA and Y chromosome come from that event.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But the probability of that happening by chance is only 5% squared, which is a very, very small number.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And people have evoked epicycles, for example, natural selection for the mitochondrial DNA coming from modern humans

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

natural selection coming from the Y chromosome coming from modern humans, somehow being more advantageous and pushed up in frequency.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But that would have to really happen on both these parts of the genome to produce this pattern.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And it just seems surprising.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So what's been put together is a complicated model and

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

epicycles, ideas like natural selection, to kind of make it work.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It's not impossible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

It may be the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

But one wonders whether profoundly different models might actually explain the data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And so that's something that we and others have been thinking about.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Can there be other models?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

An example of another model that might be able to explain the data that we've been playing with is one where there's much more DNA in Neanderthals from modern humans than the three or 5% that's been estimated.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And we can get such models to fit, but here it's 30% or 50% or 70%.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

So in that view, Neanderthals and Denisovans are not sisters.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

In fact, modern humans and Neanderthals are just as qualified to be sisters as Neanderthals and Denisovans.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

And in that case, maybe it's not clear what's modern and what's archaic.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Are modern humans archaic?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich - How One Small Tribe Conquered the World 70,000 Years Ago

Are modern humans modern?