David Remnick

Because it's certainly the dominant newspaper and probably news gathering organization in this country.

More outraged in a sense.

And it's been the soft sell of this fascism that has normalized it.

This week's cover of The New Yorker is Donald Trump emits lots of explosions, obviously Venezuela, drinking from a gigantic barrel of oil and the oil is coming all over him.

A more straight up the, you know, the wazoo political cartoon you couldn't imagine by Barry Blitt.

And there it is.

And yet I go to one panel discussion after another and get yelled at by one comedian podcast, usually comedian podcasters about the corporate media and they're the truth teller.

I don't know if it's as simple as all that.

You had Rahm Emanuel on.

Oh, yeah.

Rahm Emanuel is—

pretty clearly either thinking about or already running for president, and you just let him have it.

Let's listen for a second.

You put it right between his eyes.

Why?

Do you accept the argument that – I hate the word, but I'll use it anyway – that wokeness got to a point where it did hurt?

the Democrats on a whole other range of issues and their efforts to get elected.

And you think that would alienate a potential listener?

I think part of your show is almost cathartic.

That's exactly right.