David Remnick

And I've been speaking today with the co-host of the popular political podcast, I've Had It.

Her name is Jennifer Welch.

Even if you aren't a regular listener, Welch very well may have popped up on your social media feeds with stinging rebukes of politicians on both sides.

Her progressive politics are not unique, but her style and her sense of how to connect with listeners is pretty unapologetic, pretty in your face, and very profane.

Where Michelle Obama famously said, when they go low, we go high.

Welch says, you want to go low?

We're going to go lower.

I'll continue my conversation with Jennifer Welch.

Joe Rogan is the leading podcaster, not only in this country, but in the world.

And by a lot.

And this is a guy who started out not with politics in mind.

but rather with UFOs in mind and UFC fighting and suddenly politics and big thinkers and dark web people and, and, and started coming to his show.

And it became even more important, even more influential.

And one of the biggest lingering questions about Kamala Harris wasn't about this policy question or that.

It was about why the hell she didn't manage to go on Joe Rogan.

Now, I know you don't listen incessantly.

But I wonder what your thoughts on Joe Rogan – how you think about him and what influence it might or might not have on what you do.

Do you?

Yeah, I do.

Do you think the New York Times is a reliable purveyor of news?