David Rosenthal

The average athlete is taking a few million dollars more to move his wife and kids from one family, one city that loves him and that he loves to some strange place where everybody's going to be unhappy.

Sometimes they end up having kind of negative value.

And you become a person who that's what you're about.

It's like you're saying, I'm going to be the person who just follows the financial incentives rather than I'm going to control the, I'm going to let these incentives do, they could be useful.

They get you out of bed in the morning for a while.

But you have to kind of control them.

So I love that you're not milking the market.

We're already doing the thing that we need.

Yeah, the dream is what we're doing.

All right, so I took us off on a sidetrack.

We've only gotten through four.

We've gotten like five or six or seven.

I want to hear what's the fifth lesson you've learned.

I think there's an argument to be made that in any industry where they're both private and public companies, the private companies end up being a much better run.

And I mean, mostly bad things happen when companies go public.

And certainly less pleasant.

So public or private, your point is founder control.

But what is, I'm missing actually the connection.

Why if you were less wussy-ish, would you have created- Hire people, take on- Start a second show.

Start a second show.