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David Sachs

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And the reason why I think this could be a disadvantage for the United States is because, again, it's feeding into this regulatory frenzy.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

We're seeing, again, 1,200 bills at the state level.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And right now, I think we are winning this AI race.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

We're ahead in all the key dimensions, chips, models, and so on.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

But we could shoot ourselves in the foot.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

If we end up over-regulating this thing to death, we could actually cost ourselves this AI race.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So I do worry about this question of AI optimism.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It seems so.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

I mean, China is developing its own models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Obviously, about a year ago, you had the deep seek moment where you had a powerful model released by deep seek.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And I think that kind of put Chinese AI on the map in a way.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

I think people in the West didn't realize in a way how good China was at producing models.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And there was a little bit of complacency towards our relative position.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

People weren't really talking about the global competition model.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

two years ago.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It wasn't really discussed at all.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

I remember when the Biden administration created this 100-page Biden executive order regulating AI.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

No one was talking about whether all this regulation would slow us down vis-a-vis China.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It wasn't even part of the conversation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Then DeepSeek launched, and I think we did realize we're in a global competition and we have to win, and that's why we have to actually be quite careful about how we regulate this and make sure we're not over-regulating it.