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David Sachs

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All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Chip production is a scale-up business.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So if they can dominate the Chinese market first, that gives them a powerful platform to then proliferate to the rest of the world.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

You want to weigh in?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Well, just to build on that, I think people sometimes ask, how will you know if you've won the AI race with China or with other countries?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And I think there's a very simple answer to that, which is market share.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

You know, if five years we look around the world and we see that it's American chips and models are being used everywhere, well, that means we won.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

But if in five years we look around the world and it's Huawei chips and deep seek models, then that would be very bad, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

That'd be a bad sign.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

That means that we lost.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So I do think that the proliferation or diffusion

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

of American technology is really critical to winning this race.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

We know from Silicon Valley that the companies that end up becoming huge are the ones that create ecosystems.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

It's the you know, you as a technology company, you want to have the most apps in your app store.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

You want to have the most developers writing on top of your API.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

You want to be a platform company.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And so in all these technology races, biggest ecosystem wins.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And we want to have that.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

So that's basically why I think this program is so important is we want to create the biggest ecosystem.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

Now, this is not only about benefiting the U.S., because in order to have a successful ecosystem, you have to create value for your partners.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Inside America's AI Strategy: Infrastructure, Regulation, and Global Competition

And that's really important.