David Sacks

You know, we're blocking out the outside world.

We call your bluff.

Right, so that is their right, but they don't want to do that because it would be too obvious what they're doing, and so therefore... They want to do the fines, they want to be underhanded.

They're trying to levy fines and just have it be more subtle, and we're pushing back saying, no, you can't do that.

Yeah, good luck doing that against Elon.

He's pretty principled, this guy, and I think he can pay for the speeding ticket.

I don't think it's going to be a problem.

And I would say President Trump, because I do think that President Trump's election definitely changed the direction of free speech in the United States, never mind the rest of the world.

Because I think under the Biden administration, we now know from cases like Biden v. Missouri, and then also what was released in the Twitter files, and then since then, even more disclosure that's come out, that the Biden administration was pressuring social networks to engage in censorship.

David, we did discuss this.

You could bring up Biden for all of 2025, but when 2026 came around, you had to put... I'm recounting what was happening for several years, and President Trump changed that direction.

Absolutely.

And so if it weren't for that, I think we'd still be on a censorship track.

I mean, if it was up to Zuckerberg, he would have continued to do it under Kamala.

He did it with no problem under Biden.

He's a weathervane.

His entire position is based on what makes the system grow.

Look, I think when it comes to these tech companies... I don't have any personal feelings on it.

I think when it comes to the tech companies, there's, let's say, a range of courage.

Yes.