David Sanger

But we don't know his position on Iran.

And while he's been careful not to separate himself from the president, one has to assume from everything that we're hearing leaking out that he is at least raising a lot of questions about how this could go wrong.

Well, certainly, Terry, we've seen investments that came from the Arab states into some of Jared Kushner's businesses.

And for Steve Witkoff, whose business is now run by his children, there have also been some investments as well.

My colleagues and I brought this topic up with President Trump during our interview in January.

And we noted to him that in the first term, he made sure that the Trump Organization did not invest in overseas projects because it's rife with opportunities to go influence a president or to get their children involved in business deals that would look like an effort to influence the administration.

And I thought the president's answer to us was just fascinating, Terry.

He said, you know, you're right.

We did that in the first term and we didn't get any credit for it.

So in the second term, we're not even bothering.

We're just going ahead with those transactions.

And that told you so much about President Trump's mindset here, Terry, because he wasn't saying we're abstaining from those transactions because we wouldn't want to create the impression of any kind of conflict of interest.

Instead, it was a I did this and no one rewarded me for it.

No one even credited me for it.

No one praised me for it.

Therefore, let's not bother.

Well, Terry, I think the best case here would be, as the president himself said in the State of the Union, would be to come to a diplomatic outcome here that didn't require any military action, right?

And it would be easy to imagine what that would be.

a suspension for some number of years of all enrichment activity in Iran, maybe the permission to do a very limited amount for medical purposes, as I described earlier, and a long-term agreement

that Iran would get its nuclear fuel from operations outside the country, maybe have an Iranian interest in a Middle East provider of enriched uranium so you were sure it was for energy purposes, not weapons purposes.