David Sanger

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The Daily · Inside Trump’s Deal With Iran · 15 Jun 2026 podcast

who went to extraordinary lengths to try to keep this agreement from coming together.

Well, Rachel, when the history of this war is written, the dynamic between the United States and Israel is going to be one of the most fascinating chapters.

You'll remember that it was Prime Minister Netanyahu who made the case that if the U.S.

and Israel attacked Iran together, the country was so fragile that the government would probably collapse in about three days and that it would be taken over by forces that

that Israel and the United States would be able to control.

And it was at that time that the president said to some of my Times colleagues in other conversations, this is going to be like Venezuela.

And the only peace deal that he would be interested in, he said toward the beginning of the war, was an unconditional surrender by Iran.

But as the war got more and more complicated and as the president needed a way out of a conflict in which there was going to be no quick victory and certainly no unconditional surrender, he and Netanyahu began to separate.

And they separated in large part over Netanyahu's insistence that he continue the attacks on Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Because the Iranians began to make the case that the only ceasefire that they would sign would be a whole regional one that would also call off Israel's ability to attack Hezbollah.

Now, if you ask American officials around the president, that didn't mean that Israel couldn't defend itself if attacked by Hezbollah.

But the splits you've seen in the past few weeks have all been over Netanyahu's insistence that he was going to finish the job and crush Hezbollah in Lebanon.

That's absolutely right.

And so they did not want to agree to any kind of accord that would put limits on their own military activity or even their ability to strike Iran at some point in the future.

This agreement is supposed to be a regional agreement and includes a commitment that the U.S.

would not re-attack Iran and presumably that its allies would not as well.

So this turned into some screaming fights between Netanyahu and Trump, details of which began to leak out.

And the conversations didn't get any easier.

And the president told me he had really hard conversations with Netanyahu in the past 48 hours after Israel attacked Beirut and other parts of Lebanon.

Well, first, he told me that Netanyahu was a very difficult guy, even while making the case that the president's a longtime supporter of Israel.

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