David Senra

even though I hope what I do lasts forever and is big itself.

Yeah, now everyone's launching a magazine and it's going to be like podcasts.

That's the other part that's exciting is because I like things that are really hard.

Okay, so originally, hardship.

We didn't talk as much about hardship.

I think you've been talking a lot about doing something that's different just because it's different.

I would add on, which I think is interesting and correct, but I would add on to that, like, it should be different and really hard.

Like, really hard to do.

And...

if I'm sampling all the profiles we've written in my head, some of them are ridiculously hard to write.

not only because of all the hours and work that has to go into it and the talent as a writer that has to go into it, but sometimes it's sensitive parts of the person's life that's never been written about and they've never talked about and maybe they don't wanna talk about it or they don't want you to talk about and it's the coaxing it out of them and that takes time and trust.

And so the thing I can't wait for is the profile that we write 10 years from now that we start working on today.

we have this idea which we've started to do where we just ask people, can I just have lunch with you once a year?

I'm not going to do anything with it.

I just want to start collecting the line and maybe we'll write something in 10 years.

Things that are really hard to make are really interesting to me.

And I think people stopped doing profiles because they're really hard to make.

They take time.

The business model kind of sucks.

Like, the pay is terrible.