David Senra

How on earth are these two human beings, both human beings, like a normal person versus Elu?

And so he runs the marathon, I think, at like 201, which is like 436, I think, for the mile.

Crazy fast.

And what we were saying was the difference between the world's greatest or the best there ever was and pretty good, you know, it's not a little bit better.

It's not 20% better.

It's like 10 times better or a hundred times better.

Or a thousand.

Or a thousand times better.

And that is hard to grasp.

Do you agree?

Yeah, I mean, you asked me, like, what am I thinking?

Right before we started recording, you saw what I was doing, like, what are you thinking about?

And I was like, I'm thinking about how this looks.

And he's like, but does that matter?

I was like, everything matters.

Like, we're trying to be the best in the world at what we're doing, so, like, we have to take everything very, very seriously.

I think the only thing I'm obsessed with, there's actually, um...

One of the best pieces of advice I ever got that I won't shut up about, and I think about literally probably every day now, is this idea of constant refinement of association that my friend Jared Kushner told me.

And Jared is unbelievably honest.

There's a great line in, I just finished, we were talking upstairs, I just finished reading Bruce Springsteen's autobiography.