David Senra

And there's a great line, he talks about his deep friendship that he has with Jimmy Iovine, and he's like, you want Jimmy in the room?

Because he'll tell you the truth.

Like everybody around Bruce is kissing his ass.

And like, Jimmy's just like, this album sucks.

Or this is great.

You like trust his judgment.

And Jared's like that too, where he's just like, if he's your friend and he likes you, he's very kind, but he was like, hey, what you're doing is not good enough for you.

This person is not good enough for you.

Be careful with this.

And so this constant refinement association is important because as you keep getting better at what you do, you get access to people that are great at what they do too.

And there's a lot of commonalities between them.

And then once you're exposed to that,

I always have this line that mediocrity is invisible until passion shows up and exposes it.

I've become intolerable for like people that are casual the way they push their work or the friends they choose to hang out with or just anything that is not them striving for excellence.

And I don't even know why I'm like that.

It's just, I have to be, I want to be, I have to be the best in the world at what I'm doing.

And so that is where I'm starting.

Or did you become like that because you've studied 400 biographies of greatness?

That's a great question.

I don't know.