David Senra

But the fact that you find it in the first place.

This is why you ask, like, what are you doing?

Why are you taking, like, you didn't say, like, why are you taking everything so seriously?

It's like, that is what I'm, I understand how rare it is for somebody to be able to make a living doing something that they love to do.

This is why I hate, like, we talked about the fact that

we don't really read Twitter that much, you and I. I hate when I see people just engagement farming and they're like, the worst piece of advice you could ever have is work on what you're passionate about.

And they're like, instead, start a trash hauling business.

And I'm just like, no, man.

It's the best thing in the world and it's excessively rare.

And if you find it, you should do everything in your possible, impossible to hold onto it and to not mess it up.

This is a piece of advice I got from Michael Dell.

And he told me, he was like, tell me crazy stories.

This is before we recorded the podcast together.

We spent five hours talking.

And he told me, he's just like, most entrepreneurs sabotage themselves, right?

You're not taken out by like a competitor.

Like you do something where like you're having success and then like you, I always say like the worst thing you could do is like you go to sleep on a win, you wake up with a loss, right?

Yeah.

Jimmy Iovine.

One of the things I learned from Jimmy, he's in this documentary, it's one of my favorite documentaries, it's called The Defiant Ones.