David Senra

He also had this crazy 50-year career, is the importance of actually having a full life with crazy experiences.

And so he did this episode of Rick Rubin two years ago.

He just did another episode of Rick Rubin's podcast.

I think it was in 2023.

It was the best single podcast episode I listened to in 2023.

And it's just like, I want that.

Not only do I want to be really great at what I do, but I was like, I want to have a very full life.

So Jimmy was kind enough when I did a Founders episode on him, he said like a thousand people texted to him.

And he invited me to his house.

And one of the pieces of advice, again, 72, maybe 75, probably 72, guy has more knowledge, you know, practical knowledge in his pinky than I have in my entire body.

And he's like, most people cannot handle success.

And the advice, he's been around super talented people.

And these are some people who are legit geniuses and they destroy their lives.

I'm not interested in being successful for a year, for five years, for 10 years.

I don't want to, I want to be this until I decide I'm going to stop doing this.

And so his whole thing was, there's like basically four things that he sees, four ways that people do this the most.

Ruin their success.

They are successful, they are talented, and they destroy themselves.

Oh, what are the four?

The first one was drugs.