David Senra

Let me just set the table for this real quick.

The way you put it to me, like, I'll go get them their coffee.

I don't care.

I'm there to learn from them.

If I need to go get their coffee, I'll go get their coffee.

Do you understand?

That's insane.

Like, I think that's the right...

like mindset.

Yeah.

But I don't think anybody would believe somebody running, you know, a hundred billion dollar company and has done the things that you've done.

Like, yeah, no, I'm fine.

Like I'll shout at this guy and like, I'll do whatever I need to do.

I think you're dead right about this.

The way I would think about like your archetype is I think you nailed it with like –

coach and then you'll hear people inside Spotify say it's like very, you have a very collaborative like management style where I don't think anybody is going to describe Steve Jobs as collaborative.

Now he was able to collaborate, but at the end, like he was, it was kind of like, I'm making all the decisions.

There's actually an interesting story.

I'm curious how you think about this.

Like how do you balance like the decisions you make specifically on like product, right?