David Senra

Yeah.

Like it is inside of me.

Yeah.

there's a bunch of people that say the reason they joined Spotify in the early days is because Daniel would teach us and tell us that he's building for the long term.

So there had to be acquisition offers early on.

And did you ever consider them?

Is that connected to what you were saying earlier that you might be a better, you think you might be a better coach than player?

Yeah.

We were texting back and forth about this.

So we should just talk about this now so we don't forget.

We were talking about like, maybe we should talk about like the archetypes, different archetypes of entrepreneurs, because like there could be, you know, there could be somebody like a young, there's undoubtedly a young Daniel Ack out there, right?

We just know that that's going to happen.

There's this great thing.

I'm slightly obsessed with Michael Jordan.

He's the...

He's the lock screen on my phone.

He's my contact card.

So when people like, they start texting me, it's like Michael Jordan with his eyes like this, like I'm kind of setting the tone.

And he said this great thing because, you know, at the end of his career is the rise of Kobe Bryant.

And everybody's, towards the end of his career, they were like obsessed.