David Solomon

good at that.

And when I arrived at Bear Stearns after Drexel Burnham went out of business, I very quickly became a very significant producer and a culture that was kind of eat what you kill.

And it was a great experience.

I don't think that's the way, I don't think it was the perfect culture.

And culture's evolved.

But I do think there's something here.

And one of the things we're talking about a lot at Goldman, I think it's really important.

I still think human to human contact matters a lot.

And I think one of the great opportunities we have with this technology expansion is to get our young people out with clients, talking to clients, broadening our client footprint.

They're incredibly capable.

They're incredibly capable.

This shifted over the last 30, 40 years.

And it really, I don't think it shifted for the better.

And now we're going to shift it back.

And I think it's a real opportunity.

I think that's a really, really good question, and I want to get to that.

But I just want to comment on one of the things that you said that I think is a really interesting thing for us to think about.

because I did quote that statistic, but I think it's important for us to think about and see that statistic for what it is, okay?

Because when I graduated from college, it was very, very hard to get a job, but not everybody wanted to get a job, okay, in the white collar professions that are defined by the 16%.

But I'd also argue even today, if you graduate from a liberal arts college and you wanna go be a school teacher,