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David Spiegelhalter

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And then it came out that these were only in-hospital deaths.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And then it came out of people who had been tested.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Then it came out that there was quite long delays, up to two weeks, but definitely a few days.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Then we start seeing these huge weekend effects.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So those daily deaths, which we'd like to use to monitor, are we reaching

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

peak are we slowing down are we reaching a plateau are we dropping are deeply flawed and we have to wait for the office for national statistics to release their death registrations which i must say it's fantastic organization every week really really quite rapidly they they do weekly updates on the number of deaths and causes of death you know it's a great operation which normally no one takes the slightest bit of notice of and then suddenly now tuesday mornings at 9 30 everyone's pouring over this data

Talk Evidence
Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

because when it came out yesterday, it revealed a massive spike of 6,500 more deaths in one week, registered in one week, up to April 3rd.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So it's still some time ago, 10 days ago or so.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

And 6,500 over the normal, what you'd expect, around about 10,000 each year, each week at this time of year.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

So it's a 60% increase, but only just over half of those cases

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

6,000 extra, maybe about 3,500 were labelled as COVID on the death certificate, which leaves on its own a huge spike of 2,500 extra deaths in one week without COVID on the death certificate.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Exactly.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Now, this is a massive, you know, in a sense, mystery.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

When I saw that data and graphed it, it was staggering.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Not the COVID spike, which I'd expected, but the non-COVID, you know, label death.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Now, this follows a pattern that's been seen in Italy and other places.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

They report that the number of deaths actually labeled as COVID is roughly half the actual excess deaths recorded over the period.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Now, why?

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

Oh, my goodness.

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Talk Evidence covid-19 update - Remdesivir, care homes, and death data

You know, I...