David Tamarkin

They're getting more elaborate. They're breaking out of the chocolate vanilla flavor mold. Over the last year, I feel like you and I and everyone at King Arthur has been noticing so much cake innovation in general, just from like giant sheet cakes served in parks at huge picnics. Flavor with everything you can imagine, you know, fig leaves, tea, black sesame. Meanwhile, I'm

They're getting more elaborate. They're breaking out of the chocolate vanilla flavor mold. Over the last year, I feel like you and I and everyone at King Arthur has been noticing so much cake innovation in general, just from like giant sheet cakes served in parks at huge picnics. Flavor with everything you can imagine, you know, fig leaves, tea, black sesame. Meanwhile, I'm

I wonder if the classic traditional birthday cake has actually been a little diminished. They become every day. I was in the grocery store the other day. I saw birthday cake Oreos. Oh, yeah. A new restaurant just opened in Brooklyn and their main dessert is birthday cake. How many people are actually eating that on their birthday?

I wonder if the classic traditional birthday cake has actually been a little diminished. They become every day. I was in the grocery store the other day. I saw birthday cake Oreos. Oh, yeah. A new restaurant just opened in Brooklyn and their main dessert is birthday cake. How many people are actually eating that on their birthday?

Yeah, right. These things are clearly not meant to be reserved for your actual birthday. It's meant to give you a birthday moment in an otherwise normal day.

Yeah, right. These things are clearly not meant to be reserved for your actual birthday. It's meant to give you a birthday moment in an otherwise normal day.

A moment of joy, right? Yeah. No, I'm not against it. I'm into it. But it does leave open the question, okay, so where does that leave the birthday cake? So where does that leave the birthday cake for you, Jessica?

A moment of joy, right? Yeah. No, I'm not against it. I'm into it. But it does leave open the question, okay, so where does that leave the birthday cake? So where does that leave the birthday cake for you, Jessica?

I know a very good recipe for a coconut sheet cake. Oh. So that totally resonates with me. Sheet cake is birthday cake. Layer cake is birthday cake. And yet the older I get, the more my birthday cakes look like something you would serve at a funeral. I mean, I want I just want like really sleek, sexy, dark birthday cakes.

I know a very good recipe for a coconut sheet cake. Oh. So that totally resonates with me. Sheet cake is birthday cake. Layer cake is birthday cake. And yet the older I get, the more my birthday cakes look like something you would serve at a funeral. I mean, I want I just want like really sleek, sexy, dark birthday cakes.

I want like a flower, a single layer flowerless chocolate cake, maybe with even like maybe doubling down on the chocolate or tripling down on the chocolate by adding like a shiny glaze. I just want like I don't know. I just want something very, very intense and very sleek is the word that comes to mind.

I want like a flower, a single layer flowerless chocolate cake, maybe with even like maybe doubling down on the chocolate or tripling down on the chocolate by adding like a shiny glaze. I just want like I don't know. I just want something very, very intense and very sleek is the word that comes to mind.

Right. Yeah. I just want to have a sugarless chocolate cake. It's just basically like solid coffee.

Right. Yeah. I just want to have a sugarless chocolate cake. It's just basically like solid coffee.

You did not say that with much conviction. No.

You did not say that with much conviction. No.

Absolutely. I think the birthday cake should be dictated by the birthday person. I also think it's 100 percent OK and even a flex for the birthday person to make their own birthday cake.

Absolutely. I think the birthday cake should be dictated by the birthday person. I also think it's 100 percent OK and even a flex for the birthday person to make their own birthday cake.

And I know that. Oh, no. I know this is this idea out there that the birthday cake is made with love from someone else. But if you make your own birthday cake, it's sort of like an appreciation for yourself. It's an act of love. self-love, which are words I don't even like hearing come out of my mouth. But it's an act. I don't know. I think it's a real act of just giving yourself what you want.

And I know that. Oh, no. I know this is this idea out there that the birthday cake is made with love from someone else. But if you make your own birthday cake, it's sort of like an appreciation for yourself. It's an act of love. self-love, which are words I don't even like hearing come out of my mouth. But it's an act. I don't know. I think it's a real act of just giving yourself what you want.