David Westin

So your analogy is very helpful, but a little disturbing because I don't see many Neanderthals around anymore, right?

We have a lot of homo sapiens.

In your analogy, what can we do to make sure that we survive that, that this thing we're creating doesn't become so smart and perhaps not even have our best interests at heart?

Insofar as we do make progress on trying to reshape

generative AI in a more positive direction, does that come from outside the industry or inside the industry?

Does that come from government regulation and agreement, or does it have to come from inside?

Because as I talk to many people in the business, they're much more focused on the race you talk about than they are on the safety part.

They don't want to get slowed down in that.

I mean, you're on the board of Anthropic, which I know is trying to make a move in the other direction, but can we do it from the outside, or does the industry itself somehow have to internalize the risk?

Give us your view about where we are likely to see the biggest effect.

You mentioned biomedicine.

You mentioned computer software programs.

Let's talk, turn to the news today with the deal between Disney and OpenAI and the entertainment space that you know well.

I mean, you manage transition from my perspective, at least from more traditional TV cable broadcast through to streaming.

What does the transition look like from streaming through to AI?

I'm not sure it says much about my job, about whether I keep my job in the AI world, because there's a lot of things that are done on television with news and other things that frankly are not creating the next Lion King.

I want to come back to something you referred to, which is to explore a bit more, and that is how are we going to pay for it?

There is so much money going into data centers investment right now.

and to some extent i think it's been supporting the markets because there's been so much investment uh how do you get a return on an investment without laying off an awful lot of people

You can do GDP growth with fewer people.