Davide Asnaghi

It sounds like both of you are doing some of this, but use simulation either for data generation or other purposes right now.

Is that something that you see using more of in the future, using less of, or maybe even other techniques other than simulation?

So your AI like goes and uses some... All these simulation software.

They almost use the simulation as a way to sort of verify that as the last step versus as the design.

Having that intuition.

I mean, you said earlier, Davide, like 90% – you could 90% do the design and there's still like 10% left where you have a human – I mean, you have a team of amazing electrical engineers that basically goes and checks every design and finishes them.

Like, do you think to close that last gap, is there – do we need some sort of a fundamental breakthrough in ML or in AI research to like –

to understand the physical world to make that leap?

Or is it more just further developing or scaling up existing systems?

Or do you think that's the wrong question to even ask?

Like automating that last, whether it's 10 or 5 or 1%, doesn't really actually matter that much.

Lenny's take, yeah.

Your area seems like

for lack of a better word, almost more like permeable in that it's less of a controlled system.

So there's a lot more variables like the wind or I don't know, whatever.

There's stuff that sort of blows in and might affect you that is hard to be represented by a model.

So from like outside in, my read would be there will probably have to be this more of a human in the loop model.

But maybe you disagree with me and you're like, we are going to have fully end-to-end designed, you know, large-scale industrial projects.

And Aaron, you're totally wrong.

What do you think?