Davina McCall

If one of them goes, then something else struggles.

And I feel all those feels.

for Michael.

I think what's interesting with modern day relationships, and I'd be quite interested in getting your take on this, is that everybody's looking for a soulmate.

This has got to be the perfect person.

But how do they get what you had?

Because that is so rare.

Yes.

So what is different about it?

Because you talking about talking, we've talked nonstop for 38, we talked nonstop for 38 years.

And I was still talking as I held her hand.

Yeah.

And she died.

What is the magic ingredient to a great relationship, in your opinion?

But I think the same opposition is with somebody that you don't talk to about, let's try something else or why don't we... Yeah.

Yes.

I also think physical attractiveness to somebody in a relationship that you're in with is often also about the other person making an effort.

So when I see my partner make an effort, it makes you, again, feel seen, I think.

By them making an effort with what they wear, you think, oh, they want me to see them.

Do you know what I mean?