Dax Shepard

These two sisters are bonded.

She found her daughter, her sister.

I think it's years later and they're as close as ever.

So it's a really good story.

Yeah.

I'm glad that you said that because I would say that my biggest mission in this book for people to realize that attachment, and that's one of the biggest misconceptions.

And when you look on social media, that people equate anxious and avoidant with pathology.

That's why I'm so drawn to the science because attachment, it doesn't come from the medical model of pathology and healing and curing pathology.

It actually comes from social psychology and the neurodevelopmental model.

So the question is not about what's wrong and how we can cure it or heal it.

It's more about is it effective or is it not effective?

Is the bond effective in regulating the emotions?

Is it working for you or is it not working for you?

And from an attachment perspective, it's specifically, are you able to use this?

It's something that's called a secure base.

Is it giving you a secure base?

Because the point of view of relationships from an attachment perspective, remember, it's like a safety mechanism.

is for you actually to fade into the background.

So, you know, in the strange situation when the child wants to play with all these toys and every once in a while looks back to see if the mother is there.

That's the point of a relationship.