Dax Shepard

And I never really lived with my father again, although he would come in and out of my life here and there.

Right.

Mom decides she's going to start the nursing program up in Santa Fe, and then you guys up and move to Santa Fe.

And you're in extreme poverty at this point.

The way I would say it is we weren't like Albania in the 60s poor, but for the United States, we were poor on a level that many people have a hard time relating to.

Where like there's a constant, gnawing, corrosive worry about making ends meet about eating.

Yeah, all day consumed by this anxiety.

Yeah, that's right.

And then your buddy Shiloh who you meet, they don't have water at home.

Right, so I meet my buddy Shiloh who is like immediately my best friend.

In the book, very briefly, I talk about my experiences in Santa Fe at some length because it was this period of just pure, perfect childhood.

I had one year of childhood, right?

And that was this year when I'm in second grade and I have this buddy Shiloh, he's my best friend.

You can look at like all the things that happened.

Dave, what are the interventions?

It's a complicated question, but surely,

making a best friend when I'm at such a young and shapeable age was one of the major things in my life to happen to me.

So, you know, we're out there just cutting up and just being crazy.

Well, what I would argue, because I'm a big proponent of best friendship, because I think when you have that buddy and things are tough,

The way that you can elicit joy and ride joy and how much that's a needed medicine.