Dax Shepard

It's really quintessential to, and you think he really learned to wring joy out of things in a very specific way.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And your guys' was video games, yeah?

We were obsessed with video games.

So my age here is really relevant.

I'm born in 75.

So I'm five years old when Pac-Man is coming out.

Which means I'm seven years old, roughly speaking, when Ms.

Pac-Man is coming out.

Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, all these absolute gem video games.

We were poor.

We couldn't afford them.

But, you know, we'd scrounge up quarters and try to get quarters, just do crazy things.

But we were obsessed with video games.

And as I talk about the book, video games became this escape from all the things that were happening in my life.

You know, I could just always just space out and go try to drum up a quarter to go play a video game.

Yes.

Yeah.

Have you thought about what the appeal is?

I know I'm sure you have a lot of connection between the technical aspect, which you became enthralled with your whole life, but just the notion that in this little box, the rules were the same all the time.