Dax Shepard

making a best friend when I'm at such a young and shapeable age was one of the major things in my life to happen to me.

So, you know, we're out there just cutting up and just being crazy.

Well, what I would argue, because I'm a big proponent of best friendship, because I think when you have that buddy and things are tough,

The way that you can elicit joy and ride joy and how much that's a needed medicine.

It's really quintessential to, and you think he really learned to wring joy out of things in a very specific way.

Yeah, I agree with that.

And your guys' was video games, yeah?

We were obsessed with video games.

So my age here is really relevant.

I'm born in 75.

So I'm five years old when Pac-Man is coming out.

Which means I'm seven years old, roughly speaking, when Ms.

Pac-Man is coming out.

Mario Brothers, Donkey Kong, all these absolute gem video games.

We were poor.

We couldn't afford them.

But, you know, we'd scrounge up quarters and try to get quarters, just do crazy things.

But we were obsessed with video games.

And as I talk about the book, video games became this escape from all the things that were happening in my life.

You know, I could just always just space out and go try to drum up a quarter to go play a video game.