Dean Ball

And I think the other bad version.

No, no, no, it's not it.

The other bad version of the future is the radically decentralized one, where the government projects no authority over this technology, and everything devolves to corporate power.

The good version of the future is one in which the government, A, first and foremost, adopts the technology and attempts to solve problems and improve itself, which it desperately needs in a thousand different ways, imaginatively improve public service delivery using AI and associated technologies.

That's step number one.

Step number two is what's this relationship going to be between the frontier labs and the government?

And I think it's to say...

We don't have, we don't know exactly.

No one can tell you right now.

But what we need are structures through which things like this anthropic Department of War dispute, formal structures and procedures through which these kinds of things can happen.

Another way of putting this would be we need like a light touch technocratic regulatory regime.

Um, that allows for these kinds of, uh, for these kinds of kinds of, you know, I would basically just say interferences to happen and gives our public institutions a clear sense, a clear feeling of, of control and power without giving them too much, which is to say, that's kind of how like a lot of things in modern capitalism work.

Right.

So, um,

The way I would think about this is just proceeding step by step.

We don't know where we're going to end up.

We never do.

And we shouldn't try to design where we're going to end up.

We shouldn't try to design the institutions of 50 years from now.

They'll be emergent in many ways.