Debbie Lerman

Well, he wrote a book about COVID, about the totalitarian nature of the COVID response in Germany. And the cover had a medical mask with a little bit of a swastika pushing through. And so they said it was Nazi. And, you know, and of course he was acquitted and then everybody thought it was fine, but then he was hauled in again. And then he lost on appeal, which is astonishing.

Well, he wrote a book about COVID, about the totalitarian nature of the COVID response in Germany. And the cover had a medical mask with a little bit of a swastika pushing through. And so they said it was Nazi. And, you know, and of course he was acquitted and then everybody thought it was fine, but then he was hauled in again. And then he lost on appeal, which is astonishing.

But what he talks about and what has been very helpful to me to understand is is what he calls globocap, which is global capitalism, which you can also call global corporatism if you want, which is that it's just this monster and this sort of whose job is to self-perpetuate itself and suck up resources and control in the world.

But what he talks about and what has been very helpful to me to understand is is what he calls globocap, which is global capitalism, which you can also call global corporatism if you want, which is that it's just this monster and this sort of whose job is to self-perpetuate itself and suck up resources and control in the world.

And so it helps because you're not just focused on Fauci or Bill Gates or Trump. You know, we can focus on those people and we can try to, I don't know, bring them to justice or something. I'm not sure if that's the best use of our resources and our attention because people tend to want to focus on who did it, who are the people, give me the names, you know, show me the faces.

And so it helps because you're not just focused on Fauci or Bill Gates or Trump. You know, we can focus on those people and we can try to, I don't know, bring them to justice or something. I'm not sure if that's the best use of our resources and our attention because people tend to want to focus on who did it, who are the people, give me the names, you know, show me the faces.

And the point that CJ Hopkins makes and that I agree with is that it doesn't matter if you took Fauci away, there would be somebody else. And if you took Bill Gates away, there are 100 other multibillionaires who are standing in line and who are actually colluding to do the same thing. So what we need to do is make people aware.

And the point that CJ Hopkins makes and that I agree with is that it doesn't matter if you took Fauci away, there would be somebody else. And if you took Bill Gates away, there are 100 other multibillionaires who are standing in line and who are actually colluding to do the same thing. So what we need to do is make people aware.

But in addition to that, while I was listening to your conversation with Lisa, I was thinking about what's called the professional managerial class. And those are the people like me who are college-educated,

But in addition to that, while I was listening to your conversation with Lisa, I was thinking about what's called the professional managerial class. And those are the people like me who are college-educated,

who have white collar jobs, who are professors and doctors and lawyers and business people, who all support the global agenda, because as Lisa was explaining, that's where their bread is buttered. Now, if that global agenda can be shown to them in some way, and I'm not sure it's possible, but this is where I think we can possibly make some inroads to actually be harmful to them and their families.

who have white collar jobs, who are professors and doctors and lawyers and business people, who all support the global agenda, because as Lisa was explaining, that's where their bread is buttered. Now, if that global agenda can be shown to them in some way, and I'm not sure it's possible, but this is where I think we can possibly make some inroads to actually be harmful to them and their families.

So for instance, vaccine injuries. if it can be shown that this agenda actually is not taking their best interests, does not have their best interests at heart, and that the One Health agenda, which involves these vaccines and which involves all kinds of really crazy,

So for instance, vaccine injuries. if it can be shown that this agenda actually is not taking their best interests, does not have their best interests at heart, and that the One Health agenda, which involves these vaccines and which involves all kinds of really crazy,

activities in terms of centralizing food production and destroying small farms and local food producers, to name just a few things, and all kinds of climate change responses that are not only ineffective but also harmful, same as the COVID response. So if people like that can be made aware of the harms of the agenda that they are supporting, That it's harmful to them personally.

activities in terms of centralizing food production and destroying small farms and local food producers, to name just a few things, and all kinds of climate change responses that are not only ineffective but also harmful, same as the COVID response. So if people like that can be made aware of the harms of the agenda that they are supporting, That it's harmful to them personally.

It has to be personal, I think. That their kid was vaccine injured in terms of DEI and in terms of gender issues. If their child was allowed to mutilate themselves as a minor without the parents knowing or over the parents' wishes. That's when I think people might either wake up or start questioning. I don't know. What do you think?

It has to be personal, I think. That their kid was vaccine injured in terms of DEI and in terms of gender issues. If their child was allowed to mutilate themselves as a minor without the parents knowing or over the parents' wishes. That's when I think people might either wake up or start questioning. I don't know. What do you think?

I guess I want to end on an optimistic note, but am I allowed to end on a cautionary note?

I guess I want to end on an optimistic note, but am I allowed to end on a cautionary note?