Debbie Lerman

So here's a rabbit hole for you to contemplate. The biggest, I think the biggest...

So here's a rabbit hole for you to contemplate. The biggest, I think the biggest...

obstacle to us is that not only is it the big the bureaucracy and the global structures but what's supporting those global structures are the military industrial complex um of the united states and uh united states allies and the problem with the military industrial complex is that um it operate first of all it it takes all of our money uh and and sucks all of our resources and

obstacle to us is that not only is it the big the bureaucracy and the global structures but what's supporting those global structures are the military industrial complex um of the united states and uh united states allies and the problem with the military industrial complex is that um it operate first of all it it takes all of our money uh and and sucks all of our resources and

And it's still bureaucracy, I guess, but it's not even bureaucracy. It's not transparent bureaucracy. And it is also engaged in all kinds of non-nefarious activities and secret activities. And the intelligence community is heavily involved in everything related to censorship. It was heavily involved in the COVID response.

And it's still bureaucracy, I guess, but it's not even bureaucracy. It's not transparent bureaucracy. And it is also engaged in all kinds of non-nefarious activities and secret activities. And the intelligence community is heavily involved in everything related to censorship. It was heavily involved in the COVID response.

And so when we think about what to do, if we can't dismantle those giant bureaucracies, if you want to call them that, It's going to be really hard, but I will return to your message and Matthias' message and my message, which is local and community and love.

And so when we think about what to do, if we can't dismantle those giant bureaucracies, if you want to call them that, It's going to be really hard, but I will return to your message and Matthias' message and my message, which is local and community and love.

Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Drew.

Thank you so much for having me, Dr. Drew.