Debbie Millman

I think also having that self-reliance, going all the way back to your origin story, to know that you can trust your sense and your judgment.

You've talked about animacy, the soul of things, and you blur the line between making and being, and a lot of that, as you said, is about listening.

What kind of silence do you hope your work leaves behind?

Thank you, Rose Simpson.

From the TED Audio Collective, this is Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

On Design Matters, Debbie talks with some of the most creative people in the world about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about and working on.

On this episode, a conversation with Mauro Portini about technology and design, and about what a designer really does.

Design Matters is produced for the TED Audio Collective by Curtis Fox Productions.

The interviews are usually recorded at the Masters in Branding program at the School of Visual Arts in New York City, the first and longest running branding program in the world.

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I interviewed a famous painter about a recent exhibition, a show that had taken years to create.

Given the magnitude of the accomplishment, I asked her how long the feeling of pride lasted after opening night.

She looked at me, she smiled sheepishly and stated...

about 11 minutes.

For the last 20 years, I've interviewed hundreds of people about their motivation to create.

their ambition and what it feels like to be whole and at home in the world on my podcast, Design Matters.

In one episode several years ago, I interviewed a famous painter about a recent exhibition, a show that had taken years to create.

Given the magnitude of the accomplishment, I asked her how long the feeling of pride lasted after opening night.

She looked at me, she smiled sheepishly and stated, about 11 minutes.

I thought she was joking, but she wasn't.