Deborah Borden

It's mindfulness, metaphors and mastery.

It's formalized for this clinical modality.

And it's actually quite impactful that way.

I love that.

I love that.

Sometimes I end my sessions by saying, you know, this is the one time you're allowed to eat your feelings.

But I know what they get out of it.

And I learned this when I was researching the book.

The creativity in cooking releases all the feel good chemicals.

So serotonin, dopamine, oxytocin, and endorphins.

I don't know if, you know, I was late to learn that, but it's very particular.

And not to get too scientific, but the amygdala in your brain where all your emotions are stored, it's in both sides of the brain, which is very unusual.

And when you do talk therapy, it hits the left side of the brain.

It's very semantics.

And when you do a creative activity or a tactile activity, it hits the right side of the brain.

So the combination is powerful.

You know, I'm just, I could probably talk for another, you know, four of your shows.

Oh, I love it.

We'll definitely have you back.