Deborah Roberts

There was a common complaint of he's very controlling, that he's manipulative, that he treated women a certain way compared to men.

Disrespect, he just had an odd, strange behavior.

The university was on to him.

The professor said, we need to cut funding from this guy.

If we give him a PhD, he's going to become a professor, and we're going to end up seeing on the news that he's stalking women or he's committing some kind of crime.

He received an email describing that he was on a performance improvement plan with the university in this role.

It was somewhat satisfactory, but there were some problems.

WSU did not intend to have him back as a teaching assistant.

He was starting to really lose control of his life, kind of spinning out.

Away from home, isolated, Koberger is about to turn his PhD work into reality.

He goes from a student to a killer.

Is it somebody that trains and practices over and over and over and over again, and then at some point, do they feel like they have to execute?

like a sick way of carrying out his thesis.

We're at 34.

Hunter Johnson came up to me and I was like, where's Ethan and Zanna?

And he's like, they're not here anymore.

I was like, what do you mean they're not here anymore?

He's like, I think they were murdered last night.

He was like, yeah, all four.

We were like, what?